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    • AvionArisA
      AvionAris
      last edited by

      Hey, for me, Machines are workin' just fine! I'm using Windows 7.

      I still remember when I've had some hard times gettin' it workin' on my Win7. Not that version, though. Before I've had to do a lot of stuff I didn't knew nothin' about.

      But, since things got easier, the only thing I can say now is: thank you! Now I don't need to do the same stuff I were doin' before, just to get it running.

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      • Z
        ZemoBladeWalker
        last edited by

        Hello. I'm glad I found this forum. I wish I could find this place before it was removed.
        I have a question. Do anyone have a link or a working copy of Machines Loader?
        http://wiredforwar.wikia.com/wiki/Machines_Loader

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        • mbM
          mb @ZemoBladeWalker
          last edited by

          @ZemoBladeWalker Here: machldr.zip

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            ZemoBladeWalker
            last edited by

            Thats weird. I got 0x2e4 error code when trying to run Machines Loader.

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            • AsdamA
              Asdam
              last edited by Asdam

              Greetings, I can't say how glad I am this forum's back up and alive! That said, I could use some help on a weird compatibility issue: I have machines working 100% fine on one computer, but it has a graphics bugs when I try it on another (see screenshot)

              Works perfectly on my Dell Inspiron 580 (desktop) with Win 7 Home x64, and a GeForce GTX 470 GPU.
              Has graphics bugs on my Dell Latitude E5540 with Win 7 Home x64 (exact same build), and "Intel HD Graphics family" whatever that is.

              I'm guessing this is a directx issue, having to do with the LODs in Machines (because close-up models seem to behave better). I'm betting I should install an older directx version, but how do I find out what version I need and how to be sure Machines will automatically use it, as opposed to the newer version? I see many others have had graphics issues as well, odd that Intel chips seem to be working so much better for others.

              Here's what I get:
              hmmmm.png
              All the controls and menus otherwise behave normally.

              NOTE: The framerate is silky smooth on both machines, no obvious performance drop.

              Thanks in advance for any help!

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                martin
                last edited by

                You can't downgrade directX explicitly. Only one way that comes to my mind is by replacing dynamic linked libraries for DX with older ones. However this might make your system faulty & I think that nature of this problem is somewhere else. In older windows it was possible to list files via dxdiag tool (run -> dxdiag), not sure how it looks now.
                Once I tried run game on wine for Debian, everything seems to work perfect excepts 3D. Objects were distorted, some coordinates offset, no output errors. Maybe programmers have implemented some part of code in tricky way, which not works nowadays.machWine.jpeg

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                • AsdamA
                  Asdam
                  last edited by

                  Shoot, nothing with display drivers can ever be simple, haha

                  Yeah, I'm guessing that would be the constant model swapping. It's impressive how far they pushed what they had though, you can only guarantee so much future compatibility.

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                  • V
                    Vlad123
                    last edited by

                    I have windows 8.1 but says: fallied to selec minum resolution (640x480x16bit colour) how to run it?

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                    • bilalB
                      bilal @Vlad123
                      last edited by

                      @Vlad123
                      Compatibility mode.

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                        Vlad123
                        last edited by

                        ok,the game rum, but now there are pink spots on the screen (square or rectangular), how do I remove them?
                        PS: how to change the controls of the game?

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                        • bilalB
                          bilal @Vlad123
                          last edited by

                          @Vlad123 To your first question: I have no idea. My game runs with poor fps on win 8.1, but I haven't had any pink spot issues. Probably an incompatibility with machines and either your video card, your video card drivers, or your directx version.

                          You can't change the controls. (at least in the options menu you can't)

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                          • JudasJ
                            Judas @bilal
                            last edited by Judas

                            @bilal

                            I just installed/played Machines on my new WIndows 8 pc. It feels slow but no issues whatsoever. Haven't installed patch or .dll files

                            Edit: Nevermind:
                            upload-44847890-b044-42a2-936f-f91bdb9849be

                            The pink spots are the .bmp files that are going crazy. Normally the pink means 'see-through' but apparently something isn't telling Machines.

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                            • AvionArisA
                              AvionAris @Judas
                              last edited by

                              @Judas Maybe make a different version of those pink "see-thru" textures and upload it after you're done with it? I'm sure as hell Win 8 doesn't read pink as a transparent color.

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                              • JudasJ
                                Judas @AvionAris
                                last edited by

                                @Encrypted

                                I don't think Machines supports the fancy see-through .png files we have nowadays. Don't know for sure though.

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                                • bilalB
                                  bilal @Judas
                                  last edited by bilal

                                  @Judas Yeah it shouldn't be able to use .pngs. Machines is just told to ignore pixels of that magenta color. And I didn't have any issues at all with machines except for performance. So yeah, Win8 just gives different weird results I guess.

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                                    Han Nas @Asdam
                                    last edited by

                                    @Asdam
                                    I have the same problem. Have you been able to fix it?
                                    I was so excited when the game and menus were loading, until I tried to play it
                                    windows 8.1 with compatibilitymode on windows xp and also tried it on windows 98 mode.
                                    Back in '99 i had the original game on discs and played it on a windows 98 pc.
                                    Somehow, even then, the same visual errors occured frequently, not always, but more like 6/10 times
                                    Anyone who might know a solution here?

                                    Schermopname (32).png

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                                    • PisarzP
                                      Pisarz
                                      last edited by Pisarz

                                      This might simply be of no use, but I'll post it just in case.
                                      I'm using Windows 7, and I haven't used any compatibility settings at all. Have you tried running the game without any specific configuration?

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                                      • K
                                        kohtar1
                                        last edited by

                                        Newcomer here. waves
                                        Just installed it last night and now I have this problem.
                                        Machines menus.PNG
                                        And another thing is that when i run the game, its not being run as any task in my task bar. If I alt tab, I have to use the task manager to get back in. As seen here.
                                        taskwot.PNG

                                        Im win 7 pro 64 bit. Haven't been running any compatibility settings. I have SLI implemented on two nvidia gtx 970s. i7 etc... and I just want to play my old flame :C

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                                        • PisarzP
                                          Pisarz
                                          last edited by Hayden

                                          @kohtar1
                                          I noticed that you are using Daemon Tools. Have you tried using Magic Disc?


                                          Here is the dll-files fixer:
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                                          • K
                                            kohtar1
                                            last edited by kohtar1

                                            I'm not entirely sure what that program actually does to help me. It doesnt do anything for DLL files except have a search bar where you can type in the name of a file that you already know. I don't even know if a DLL file is my problem and if it is, which one? There's more files than that one. And that file fixer only lets me download one free dll. And I suppose i could TRY magic disc but I have little faith.

                                            Edit: magic disc didn't do anything. Also I forgot to mention earlier that the opening cut scene at the start of the game doesn't show the visuals, I can only hear that 1998 Bass music :P

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