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    • M123M
      M123 @Mordakai95
      last edited by M123

      @Mordakai95

      is it a bug that the soundtrack doesn't play in the game?

      You need to have a physical CD 2 in the drive. There may be another way to get it to work, but I haven't found one yet EDIT: found one, check edited section further down ↓


      If you try to use an ISO image of the CD (either in a virtual drive or to write to a physical CD), the soundtrack probably won't work - the soundtrack is stored as separate audio tracks on the CD, which the ISO format doesn't handle.


      I've tried a few different combinations of CD image formats (CUE/BIN, MDS/MDF, MDX) and virtual drive software (Daemon Tools Lite, PowerISO, WinCDEmu), and haven't had any luck getting the game to play music from a virtual CD.

      EDIT: After some more testing I got CUE/BIN format working with Daemon Tools Lite (other programs and formats might work too) - to get Machines to play the music from a virtual CD, make sure the virtual disc drive has a drive letter before any existing physical disc drives.

      Example setup:
      C:\ System HDD
      D:\ DVD-RW drive
      E::\ Storage HDD

      Here you would need to set the virtual drive letter to either A: or B: - some virtual drive software doesn't allow you to set this, but you can use Windows Disk Management to change the drive letter externally.


      I haven't tried writing an image to a CD yet to see if the music will play from that yet.
      (I'm using an original CD)

      EDIT: CUE/BIN image written to a CD works well

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      • JRL101J
        JRL101
        last edited by JRL101

        you could always play the soundtrack in a media player in the background. ? The music doesn't exactly change for any reason except to stop for clips?

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          Mordakai95
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          Well, before I can even start making the let's play, I'll need to work on figuring out the DWM recording. I can always mention the information to do with the OST not playing and edit it into the background.

          So here's what I learnt about the DWM: It stands for Desktop Windows Manager, and the process is called dwm.exe. And here's the problem: OBS, in my version anyway, cannot target a non-application process. I will try updating to see if it can all of a sudden, or maybe try editing the config file for the Game Capture.

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          • JRL101J
            JRL101 @Mordakai95
            last edited by

            @Mordakai95 search "VB-audio Virtual Cable" and tell me if that helps.

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              shubhamchugh
              last edited by

              i also find a list which is best for for game recording Link: Best Game Recording Software for Windows

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              • bilalB
                bilal @Mordakai95
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                @Mordakai95 I always use OBS to record anything, but I remember fraps working best with Machines many years ago on WinXP.

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                • PisarzP
                  Pisarz @M123
                  last edited by

                  @M123 said:

                  EDIT: After some more testing I got CUE/BIN format working with Daemon Tools Lite (other programs and formats might work too) - to get Machines to play the music from a virtual CD, make sure the virtual disc drive has a drive letter before any existing physical disc drives.

                  Example setup:
                  C:\ System HDD
                  D:\ DVD-RW drive
                  E::\ Storage HDD

                  Here you would need to set the virtual drive letter to either A: or B: - some virtual drive software doesn't allow you to set this, but you can use Windows Disk Management to change the drive letter externally.

                  Couldn't make it work :(
                  The music regulator in the audio console (options menu) goes back to 0/none as soon as I get out of said menu, whether from the main menu or in-game.

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                  • M123M
                    M123 @Pisarz
                    last edited by

                    @Pisarz
                    Is machines.exe set to run in a compatibility mode? If so, try unchecking that option (right-click on machines.exe → "Properties" → "Compatibility" tab).
                    So far this is the only thing I've found that causes the music volume slider to reset to 0 - at least on Windows 7.

                    (hopefully compatibility modes aren't required for the game to run on Windows 10...)

                    Running as an administrator could help, in case a user permission is preventing the game from reading/writing settings to the registry.

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                    • PisarzP
                      Pisarz @M123
                      last edited by Pisarz

                      @M123

                      Pink! Pink everywhere! I'll try afterwards if it works without those pink squares with other configurations, but the music slider is not at 0 anymore (it's at maximum volume) :)

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                      • M123M
                        M123 @Pisarz
                        last edited by M123

                        @Pisarz
                        I'll have to test it again next time I get access to a PC with Windows 10 installed, but I remember dgVoodoo 2 fixing similar graphical issues last time I tried it - do you still have it installed?

                        EDIT: andreasaspenberg claimed that the options menu causes pink squares (even with dgVoodoo) on their AMD graphics card, and that avoiding the options menu avoids the problem - don't know if that would apply to you (or if it's reliable info), but thought I'd mention it just in case.
                        I don't have any AMD graphics cards to test things with.

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                        • PisarzP
                          Pisarz @M123
                          last edited by Pisarz

                          @M123 said:

                          @Pisarz
                          I'll have to test it again next time I get access to a PC with Windows 10 installed, but I remember dgVoodoo 2 fixing similar graphical issues last time I tried it - do you still have it installed?

                          EDIT: andreasaspenberg claimed that the options menu causes pink squares (even with dgVoodoo) on their AMD graphics card, and that avoiding the options menu avoids the problem - don't know if that would apply to you (or if it's reliable info), but thought I'd mention it just in case.
                          I don't have any AMD graphics cards to test things with.

                          Yes, I still have it installed (and it works perfectly).
                          I noticed that it happened after going to the options menu, but didn't verify it. I'll play for longer periods of time and see what happens.
                          Thank you!


                          UPDATE:
                          After some extended gameplay, there's still no music for me :(

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                          • M123M
                            M123 @Pisarz
                            last edited by M123

                            @Pisarz
                            The CUE / BIN files you're using - were they

                            • converted directly from a CD2 ISO (or other format) file - (won't work as far as I know)
                            • downloaded from somewhere - (reliability depends on the original creator)
                            • created from a physical CD2
                            • made using these instructions (using the Machines Disk 2 ISO and soundtrack files from this site)
                            ?


                            Once music is working you should be able to hear it almost immediately after launching the game - music should play over the first loading screen, logo videos, and in the main menu.

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                            • PisarzP
                              Pisarz @M123
                              last edited by

                              @M123
                              I think it is the first item. I have not tried the last one.
                              All I did was downloading the files from this forum in the section dedicated to the game itself (the one that appears on the main page).
                              Maybe I downloaded an incomplete version. Or maybe I missed a step.
                              I'll try to follow the instructions from the last item and see what happens.
                              Again, thank you!

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                                tanveerkhan Banned
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                                • M123M
                                  M123 @Pisarz
                                  last edited by M123

                                  @Pisarz

                                  All I did was downloading the files from this forum in the section dedicated to the game itself (the one that appears on the main page).
                                  Maybe I downloaded an incomplete version. Or maybe I missed a step.

                                  You didn't miss anything - due to the limitations of the ISO format, the music is not present in the Disk 2 ISO files available from the site.

                                  Until someone updates the downloads with disk images in a format that supports CD audio, the instructions I posted are the only way I know of to get working music using the files available here.

                                  (another possibility might be to use the soundtrack files in conjunction with an audio wrapper like _inmm.dll or ogg-winmm)

                                  I'll try to follow the instructions from the last item and see what happens.

                                  Good luck, hope it works for you.


                                  shubhamchugh said:

                                  i also find a list which is best for for game recording Link: Best Game Recording Software for Windows

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                                    nainnad
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                                    • PisarzP
                                      Pisarz @M123
                                      last edited by

                                      @M123
                                      It worked!!! It works perfectly!
                                      Thank you :)
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                                      • M123M
                                        M123 @Pisarz
                                        last edited by

                                        @Pisarz
                                        Awesome :)

                                        Nice group picture.

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                                        • M
                                          Mahmoud
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                                          Hi, I'm just wondering if you've made any of the let's play videos yet. It's been a couple of weeks, so I thought I'd revive the post.

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                                          • M123M
                                            M123 @Mahmoud
                                            last edited by

                                            @Mahmoud said:

                                            Hi, I'm just wondering if you've made any of the let's play videos yet. It's been a couple of weeks, so I thought I'd revive the post.

                                            @Mordakai95
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                                            Maybe try posting a comment on his YouTube channel (a channel with the same username exists, I assume that's him)

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